About four months ago, I sat down with Alzo Slade and talked with VICE about the study that showed court reporters had only 80 percent accuracy when taking down African American English dialect (AAE). It aired 6/18/20. There’s a Youtube mirror. This study was a shocker for many because people look at our general accuracy of 95 percent, and then they look to a number like 80 percent, and it worries them. It worried me at the time, and I continued to cover it on this blog as more information came out. I was at VICE HQ Brooklyn for two hours, but only a few seconds made it into the segment, so please be understanding when it comes to what “made the cut.”
I was identified as a stenographic reporter with a lot of knowledge about the study. We all have a choice to make when approached by the press or any individual. Stonewall or try to present the facts? I chose the latter this time. A few things I would love to see more widely talked about:
- AAE is not spoken by all black people. It’s a specific English dialect. I learned it also has rules and structure. It’s not “slang.”
- Despite most of us having no formal training, we get it right about twice as often as the average person and 1.5 more often than the average lawyer, if you look at the pilot studies. There’s also no good alternative. AI does worse on all speakers and even worse than that on AAE. We’re talking as low as 20 percent accuracy.
- In actual court cases we have some context. We don’t just take down random lines. This doesn’t prevent all errors, but it helps court reporters a lot.
- We don’t interpret. People concerned with our interpretations don’t always realize that. Interpreting only matters in terms of correctly interpreting what we’ve heard. Interpretation of jurors and lawyers matters much more, which is why it’s so important for us to get the words correctly for them. We can educate people on this topic and help them understand big time.
- This issue is not necessarily a racial or racist one. Mr. Slade himself read the AAE sentence on paper during the segment “She don’t stay, been talking about when he done got it.” His response was something like “what the hell is this?” Anybody can have trouble with a new dialect. I know I have heard some AAE statements and done very well, and heard other AAE statements and done poorly. I’m big on the opinion that exposure is the only way to get better.
- Studies like this only highlight the need for stenographic court reporters that truly care about the record. If you meet a young person interested in courtroom equality, it might be worth having the “become a court reporter” talk. We care, and we want every single person that fills our shortage to care too.
One thing I learned from this media appearance is always keep your cool. At one point during my two hours there I felt very defensive and even a little worried they’d edit the segment in a way that was not fair to me. I kept my cool and continued the interview. That fear comes out totally unfounded! I am sure if I had overreacted, that overreaction would’ve been the face of steno, and that’s not cool!
Each stenographer is like an ambassador for who we are and what we do. A big part of what I do is getting to the bottom of things and communicating the truth about them so that each of us can go forward and be knowledgeable when the people we work with, judges or lawyers, bring this stuff up. Many of them already know we’re the best there is. The rest are just waiting for you. Your actions and excellence change the future every day. I got my five seconds of fame. Go get yours!
Sometime after the publishing of this article, the VICE story that I linked was locked on their website. You must select your TV provider to gain access. Also, I later learned Alzo actually aced the quiz. The reason he had trouble was because the sentence was not AAE / proper grammatically.
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Very interesting article. I went to court reporting school in the ‘80’s in Ohio. Race riots, GM closures and strikes, a stressful time. Our school had us take a series of classes in African American speech patterns and it was a tremendous help. Now it would probably not be PC on so many levels. 🤷♀️
I suspect it’s all in the framing. When people frame it as “that’s the way ‘they’ speak,” it’s very offensive. When people are looking for training in a dialect, I think it would be okay. It would be strange for the media to say some of the things they’ve said in other articles and then laugh at us for advocating for more training.
You’re not stenonymous anymore. You’re stenofamous! Thanks for representing us so well
Thank you for doing your best to represent court reporters to the public. It’s a pretty superficial segment. The story must have gotten cut quite a bit because of the Court’s ruling on DACA today.
Yeah. Considering how long I spent with them, and the promo, I thought this was going to go deep.
Verrrrrry interesting, Christopher. Kudos to you for doing this. Yeah, dialect is a respectful way to talk about this. Just like I find a British or Indian accent very difficult to understand due to the accent, enunciation, and the crazy fast speed at which they talk, which can ruin my day and several days to a week after that, the same exact thing with this dialect. All three examples are very unpleasant work for me because it takes a lot longer to get it right.
Good for you, Christopher!